T4P Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The location of the files is the same.( .../uploads/...) If you created a true cookie - free domain no problem.This method changes the only way of loading, but not content & location files.When changing the storage location from the drop down two processes are created. One to move the files to the "new" location and a second to delete the old files from the "old" location.If the location of the "new" and "old" uploads folder is the same.. the second process deletes the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 When changing the storage location from the drop down two processes are created. One to move the files to the "new" location and a second to delete the old files from the "old" location.If the location of the "new" and "old" uploads folder is the same.. the second process deletes the files. With a small detail - does not change location of the files. At any time,if you wish, you can return the address to load as default.Use a cookie - free domain so as I have described above, changes nothing like you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 That everyone can do.1. Create subdomains on your server aimed at root - for example: stat.your domain.comIt will be true when this subdomain created equal load your site. You forgot to mention that if you are running in SSL mode, then you have to be sure that the extra domain that you created ALSO has a valid SSL certificate or you will get insecure content being displayed (even though currently this is an issue with IPS that frequently shows insecure content anyway but should be resolved shortly with the inclusion of a proxy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 With a small detail - does not change location of the files. At any time,if you wish, you can return the address to load as default.Use a cookie - free domain so as I have described above, changes nothing like you describe.I was going to look into this next week, but definitely need confirmation that the files are not deleted at all. Is this 100% certain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I was going to look into this next week, but definitely need confirmation that the files are not deleted at all. Is this 100% certain? In the configuration file storage there are two possibilities.Here at this site using change of location - for complex use of cookie-free domain and CDN. This method removes files from your root / uploads.I do not like CDN because Google Development test also does not like it. I do thousands of tests - not only with my site. No site using CDN with good speed Google Development Test account. I believe this test - stands behind this global search tool Google. In any other Web test tool not support search. Method I describe in which this topic does not change location. Take a look at creating a second file storage - do not change the address of your files and only add custom url selected for their loading.It is very important before that to make sure that your cookie-free domain functions in the same way as your domain.For example - when put in the browser address bar "stat.domain.com" - this application should be loaded into browser your site as and when put in the address bar only domain. Only when this works, then it can use this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Right so the important parts are making sure you use 'Open System ->Files->Storage Settings-> Configurations -> Create new' and that the 'stat' domain points at the same root as the main site.Other questions from above......Is it better to have 'stat.newdomain.com' instead of stat.your_domain.com (as this would be a sub-domain)?To gain site speed I switched the Storage Method from 'File System' to 'Database', can that still be used to to work with this would I need to switch back to 'File System'?Any rough ideas as to what YSlow speed improvement this would give? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sub domain addresses in root is already cookie-free domain.Improving site speed depends on many factors, but the use of cookie-free domain will improve by 4-6 points performance site.When I introduced this method on my website YSlow reported with GTmetrix change from 87->92.Speed analysis with Google Development Test changed from 85-86 / 100 for the desk of 90-91 / 100.Mobile was 69-70 / 100 and improved to 75/100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Right, thanks will see if I can give it a go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.. Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 In the configuration file storage there are two possibilities.Here at this site using change of location - for complex use of cookie-free domain and CDN. This method removes files from your root / uploads.I do not like CDN because Google Development test also does not like it. I do thousands of tests - not only with my site. No site using CDN with good speed Google Development Test account. I believe this test - stands behind this global search tool Google. In any other Web test tool not support search. You suggest not to use a CDN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 You suggest not to use a CDN?Everyone decides for himself. I think that CDN is not good communication.Or not well implemented, which I think performance deteriorates site.If you want your site to depend on umpteen server unclear how many locations as well as the current status of different parts of the global network, use CDN.I do not use it and not use it because I judge a communication point of view and I find more disadvantages than benefits.But it still is my private opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas von Mecheln Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 When changing the storage location from the drop down two processes are created. One to move the files to the "new" location and a second to delete the old files from the "old" location.If the location of the "new" and "old" uploads folder is the same.. the second process deletes the files. Yep, just lost a bunch of files on my forum, will have to restore from a backup.Seriously IPS, anyone with an education should be able to see the problem it might cause if the folder remains the same. This looks like a major oversight to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Did you set up as recommended by @Adlago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nylyon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 In the coming weeks we are going to be reaching out to some clients reporting speed problems to investigate. We have no issues with speed on sites that we host so we are curious what is different on other sites.I volunteer for this, if you're looking for volunteers. I have a 3.4 and 4.0 forum running on the same server which may be beneficial when determining if it's hardware or software. My 3.4 system feels much faster than the 4.0 (and I had a ticket opened on performance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas von Mecheln Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Did you set up as recommended by @Adlago?Yes, followed it step by step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Yes, followed it step by step.Give a link to your site please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeFNF Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 In the coming weeks we are going to be reaching out to some clients reporting speed problems to investigate. We have no issues with speed on sites that we host so we are curious what is different on other sites.Charles, even this community is slower than 3.4. Actually, my site is faster that this one. O load View New Content in 1,7 seconds, and here it takes for me 2,3 seconds. On 3.4 it would only take something like 0,6 seconds, witch is a lot faster.Im also available to help in this regard if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genrobgen Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm available to help also.My pages take twice as long as they did.And the pages-per-session has halved as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I see new content on this site for 4 sec PP. I see new content on my site is only 391 ms I think that CDN delay this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasiko Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 You forgot to mention that if you are running in SSL mode, then you have to be sure that the extra domain that you created ALSO has a valid SSL certificate or you will get insecure content being displayed (even though currently this is an issue with IPS that frequently shows insecure content anyway but should be resolved shortly with the inclusion of a proxy). i have this issue namecheap told me to change every link to https because insecure content. but i dont have any subdomains and have own dedicated ip yet ppl see this error and google font and images arent working displaying in https mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctoDev Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 What load time should be considered as slow? MyBB & XenForo loads within 50-70ms on my server.IP.Board 3.4 loads within 300-400ms IPS 4.0 loads within 500-700ms now i hope this gets light weight as xenforo.. they was all running same configuration and same server (tried APC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted July 11, 2015 Management Share Posted July 11, 2015 What load time should be considered as slow? MyBB & XenForo loads within 50-70ms on my server. IP.Board 3.4 loads within 300-400ms IPS 4.0 loads within 500-700ms now i hope this gets light weight as xenforo.. they was all running same configuration and same server (tried APC) Again, you're comparing apples and oranges. Performance will definitely improve (some improvements are in 4.0.10) but IPS4 is never going to be as "light" as a forum as IPS4 isn't [just] a forum and it has the framework to support 8 applications which alone dictates a somewhat heavier footprint. Load times will also vary based on server configuration. Perception of load times will also vary. It's worth noting that 400ms is literally the blink of an eye. While it is an indisputable fact that users are more likely to lose interest in your site if it's noticeably slow, you're obsessing over speed differences that can't be detected without tools... certainly not by the naked eye. Your site should indeed be snappy, but unless your visitors are clicking page to page to page at a bizarre pace, the average user is not going to notice or care about the difference between 100ms and 800ms. One thing all users care about is content and the overall experience -- don't get lost in squeezing out every millisecond possible while losing focus on what's important; I've seen many users enable/install memcached, xcache, opcache, nginx, etc. and have a site that feels so fast it's like you're browsing on localhost... but with no content once the user gets there faster than no other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Give a link to your site please.Guys did you get the issues resolved here? Still looking to go ahead with the change but obviously want to avoid any file deletions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genrobgen Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I upgraded from IPS 3 to IPS 4 on May 9, 2015. As seen in the graph below, average page load times went from about 5.7 seconds to about 8.8 seconds. This is for a site with about 500k page views per week, plus five third-party banner ads per page. It's only been two days since we upgraded from 4.0.9.2 to 4.0.10 but already it looks like load times are back down to ~5.7 seconds. So I'm very grateful for the work that has gone into optimising "View New Content" (that is our second highest traffic page after the index page). 2 secs over 500k page views equates to 11 full days of waiting time per week. Time which could be spent clicking ads and generating us revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted July 17, 2015 Management Share Posted July 17, 2015 We have a lot more changes to search/VNC to make it more efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Any ideas within what time frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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